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great. learnt something there.
you answered question on the group page. in no way as a insult, he does not need to be doing these kind of gigs. they are big, not big enough for him. USA is competitive.
has he got any tours planned, albums, manager, sponsor?
i'm good at finding gaps, because that's where the opportunity is, and was trying to get that (information) from you. i could see a gap there. but couldn't understand why/how.
i know how to use South Africa.
i call it boomerang marketing strategy. and you do it under the radars. nobody actually knows who is arranging it. all i am "is asking questions and over-enthusiastic fan that wants him in SA" our music (of all types) suck. the is a gap.
i'm running my own company (not to do with entertainment) and am gutt (couldn't resist that) at getting at the right people. it is so much easier in SA.
boomerang: start off in SA. SA has a great "brand name" called "nelson mandela" - always makes news and he is just the gift that keeps on giving . all that news goes from BBC SA and CNN SA SKY SA jornos to the mother channels. the strategy is to give them something different to write about which goes straight into Africa slots on BBC/SKY/CNN channels. that turns into an entertainment story in int channels.
i'm going to find out how a show could get sponsors here. the ones that do jonny legend and bieber here. "big concerts" (name of the company) bring in most of the live shows" hold a nelson mandela concert (profit goes to NMF fund) everything for their band is covered by SA sponsors. i'm leaving out a lot.
Now the playing field changes
jeff is then landing back in USA with attention from abroad, and BBC USA / SKY USA. having had int coverage by the big news stations abroad.
i am pushing for the 007 bond soundtrack. (for my own entertainment)
lets put it this way? how many people does he want at a live show, paying to see only his band.
SA IDOLS is on their top 16 competitors. we can still get him here for a guest performance
he will only MAKE IT when he is getting off a plane from abroad and his fans are waiting for him at the airport. then he has arrived.
and it wont hurt USA record companies to worry if hes going to get snapped up by someone abroad.
its 1:30am. i'll let you know after i speak to sony and big concerts and some other possible sponsors. see how it works here.
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didnt think i'd come back?
cliff central: i am waiting to speak to the judge of IDOL SA. i didn't realised he left so early 9:00 from his station studio. i'm not an early morning person. go to http://cliffcentral.com/listen/ its talk radio. but playing music on his channel right now. i'm sure that he wouldnt start play Jeffs. he is quite controversial and our radio stations cant control his comments, so he decided to go rogue he is only on 6:00 - 9:00 SA time JHB i'm waiting for his assistant to get back to me. if not phone before 9:00 tuesday. the nice thing about cliff central is that it is on internet live so his fans can listen. this interview would help both parties.
big concerts: i asked if they sponsor shows and if a musician just came to SA to do a fundraiser would they cover everything? he said yes. (they find the sponsors themselves which is sony other SA companies with) they asked for a proposal and i pushed them as to what time frame. for that i will need more info. they said 3 days so i wont do it until jeff knows where he is available because i only want that proposal valid for 3 days. 3 days is for urgent. so we need to make it urgent. we need proof that it is worth big concerts time to bring him out. i have set up a group to join for those that want to attend a show.
lets arrange cliff central something could come from the interview itself.
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last time i did this for a couple of guys i got *&^% all recognition or favours. they did offer a "thank-you Jax". they brought in Symbian software for cellphones and i introduced them to the network that bought it. they hadn't managed to set up that meeting for 2 years.
this time I've worked out what favors i can ask from him later, if any. he is actually riding off my project. i just need to get much closer with int media and this gives me a good reason to do it. i'm not a marketing company. i do website for small business and charities and end up mentoring them on marketing going forward.
i don't need the recognition of me doing this. my name is memorable and, honestly, playing a dumb blonde gets you through more doors. they don't realize I've sealed the deal before its over.
please delete your response on Jeff Gutt group where you are responding saying that this excitement has happened before? nobody needs to think he may be on the same route. a recording company cant pick up any doubt or wavering of confidence. as far as anybody is concerned he is here to stay. and you and he and baby boy must feel that way.
i may not be in music, but i know marketing. integrity is no1 honesty is the only way. too much honesty is TMI.
he is humble, hardworking, been through hell, obviously hurt be people, appreciative, loving and kick-ass voice and stage presence. that's all we need to know right now.
please ask him which day he is available for an interview over internet between 6-9am Jhb (gauteng) time SA? if i can know that before i speak to gareth tomorrow, that would be great, i know how to deal with it.
i'm taking off my questions to you on FB right now.
cool. Jax
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i put up that FB group about 15min and already had a response. i have no clue how she new it was up.
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oh. i also saw him posting himself performing in a video. whoever took that should please post it themselves to his site. if he wants it on his main post so that you can see it properly just add the persons name who took it and say "---- asked me to put this up for you. thanks---- great footage" or whatever. that's a favour he is doing for fans. doing it himself like "hey, check out my latest" is like saying "you don't need to see me live because i'm downloading it all for you for free".
sorry. i'm bossy, and cant see good talent go to waste. after seeing him on x-factor i thought "why the hell aren't we hearing from him?" so i started researching. Its a natural instinct.
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hi daddy Gutt.
i hope you have any sort of influence over Jeff, 38 or not. I still take advice and I'm 47 (so when i say daddy Gutt its only because you are Gutt's dad). firstly, as cooky as the sounds and you can keep this to yourself, more than coincidence happens to me. last night my aunt died of cancer. when her daughter died all i kept smelling was lemons. i kept on saying "can you smell that?" then some more stuff in between. i ran out of bubble bath last night and put in orange salt essence. citrus. plenty more odd stuff happens and the maddening thing is that it never helps me. its like a favour that i can never say "you owe me".
i also believe we are put into the right place for a reason that we don't know yet.
something hit me about Simon yesterday. i relate so well to him because he reminds me of my mentor and they can be brutal. they expect more from you, than anyone else, because they know it will take even more than you are giving. not because you aren't good enough, but what you are up against or will be. my mentor challenged me with projects that directors hadn't succeeded in. then he would walk around like a peacock just like simon does.
i know that i had one chance with him and failure was not an option.
then they leave you to do it by yourself and wont help unless you ask. they will answer in a way that you have to come up with the answer yourself. so before i ask andrew i sit and think, what have i learnt and what would he have done. even though i have my own beliefs. he wanted me to fire someone (an order). i came up with a solution that did not need firing her. he did shout at me that i had not listened to an order, but he couldn't fault me because i had done it right and couldn't argue about it.
they have a "swim or drown" ethic and it feels even more brutal when you really want something.
i was told i was a passionate fan and some insults have been included, and i don't even know i'm a fan as much as i am determined that he WILL get live shows with fire behind him. for that he will need to be prepared to be told to do things he may not feel like doing.
Simon probably could do something but won't. hes waiting for Jeff to make the right step in the right direction. just one step. if he doesn't snap Jeff when jeff does, he he will be approached and he will say you better bloody do it now before somebody else signs him up. (he may have other commitments)
what Jeff needs to know is that he mustn't be okay with where he is. he needs to make that right step. i'm not sure what that right step is so i am just taking steps at any opportunity. me saying this, could be the right step as to where he is in his mind right now. he has a voice that most singers would die for. he should not walk around singing, you cant appreciate it because you can't hear it properly. all his fans will love it but that is because they love him. his voice should only be heard one way and that is in front of his own microphone, not a radio station interviewing people in the street. he is endearing enough just to talk to. if he is asked say "sure, give me your postal address and i'll give you free tickets to my show."
I've already argued with my friend that says an "in" with "palotones" would be a big deal. they were in Vegas for a year. and have albums selling abroad. its kills me that it would only be intro but at least people would be only looking at him, not walking past.
she said he lacks stage presence. i cannot see the paltones lead singer, filling a presence on a stage like he did in x-factor. he didn't need dancers or even much backup. all he needs is guidance and management.
my suggestion would be to sit down and think how Simon thinks. look at every star he has created. research every step, google, which steps they took. how did they sell themselves to Simon in a way Jeff did not or lost an opportunity.
considering he wasn't Jeff's mentor, he gave him more compliments than he needed to. he saw the one performance as important enough to be happy that millions of people had seen and we don't know the difference between tweedledee and tweedledum's votes and his. but i bet they won by a margin of a hair. so already has at least half of millions.
Simon may not have the time for his career now. maybe timing was just bad. but i doubt he won't take a phone call from him.
after doing all his homework (not what from what he has experienced in the industry, perhaps not what people in the industry have suggested or are doing), instead, letting Simon know he has done his homework and is on the same wavelength as Simon he must know enough to "click", because Simon would only give him a hint. When he "clicks" that is probably the "right step" Simon wants to see.
my mentor was brutal and tested my integrity to its limits. i was ordered to fire a person and could have been fired for not doing that. he just couldn't fault my results.
after 20 years i phone my mentor and say "ok, I've thought of this and this and tried that and am just plain stuck now." he knows I've done my homework and still will only hint. i still have to come up with the answer. he has actually opened doors for me but i had to find the doors. the right step.
its different with Jeff, he is an artist not business tycoon. music is his love mine is strategy and marketing. i do websites, enjoy what i do, but its only my strategy. not my future. that's what i do. i let Jeff make me get goosies, because i cant do what he does.
it would not surprise me if Simon would speak to him for hours, send him somewhere that is suitable for Jeff.
and do not be heart-broken by "no"s. bounce back and change strategy as fast as possible. every no is closer to a yes. he just has more "no"s because USA has more competition.
but i would suggest, plenty of homework, thinking in Simon's brain. work out what he could do, what he has tried and do it until his answer is "i don't know the bloody answer".
he could look at tweedledee and tweedledum and look where they have failed. they already have failed. they wont have concerts, they aren't good enough for albums and they will be singing in dining halls fluttering eyelashes at each other.
Jeff has not failed. will fill stadiums and can certainly churn out albums.
if asked, i will do the research and statistics, i did 2 years in varsity recently. but i'm not doing it if he doesn't want help and his head is in the wrong place.
look at it this way. when his "failures" have happened in the past, did anybody send you a message like this?
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Hi Greg.
Sony has just been holding a talent show in Africa and south Africans were able to send in demos. it was that simple, emailing in a demo. all you had to do is prove you are south African and not signed up with anyone else. i am single and marriage doesn't hold any significance to me, so marriage of convenience would have been nothing. just a piece of paper in court signed by two people. he could have had a south African address "home" and anti-nuptial contract that no money is shared between us. he could have flown in and been a south African citizen in 3 days because they have an emergency procedure generally used for immigrants to get IDs for jobs to be employed here. (they want anyone working and qualified asap.
3 days is all he needed in SA.
Sony Africa (but mostly SA) has produced international stars from here. most people don't know that they are even from SA "freshly ground" because they go straight into the charts, internationally. we get it at the same time the world gets it.
Sony closed that talent search on 1 September. he would have got it hands down because i picked up from the site they sign up bands and separately voices (he would have fallen in both categories.)
Jeff had his band in place he could have entered with a band or not. he had the convenience to be south African for a couple of months with a "home address". he didn't need to stay in SA. he is a "travelling performer" they wouldn't expect him to be actually living here 24/7. they didn't care about your history, just that you weren't signed up to any contract.
and i have been begging anyone to listen to me, that he (i wasn't sure for what reason) had to be in SA.
he missed being signed up by Sony by 5 days. he would have been signed up, they don't only choose 1 person. a number of artists are signed up in different categories.
i said he was missing something. it was the step that Simon would have seen and possibly jumped before Sony SA had signed him up.
he has probably had so many doors opening for him but for some reason, may be too much loyalty to his local fans, not believing in himself, maybe this is all he wants, for whatever reason that i cant fathom, he doesn't open them?
i wish him the best for his future. it was great fun being part of the Gutt Team
bye at least that sense of urgency has left me now.
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Oh God Greg, I do not know where to start. This is becoming extremely embarrassing. About an hour after I said a happy relieved goodbye and un-joined all Jeff’s groups, incl my own, somebody, unexpectedly wants to give up soda, while I have given up chocolate to “give up something until Jeff stops smoking” campaign. Until this time I have had a barrage of angry/”shame, leave Jeff alone” messages. I was not a FB friend or part of that group when he did this. You will probably see I belong to no groups now.
Please pass this onto Jeff. I do not care if he thinks I am some nutty fan and frankly do not care what he thinks. Please read this.
This is not the first time this has happened. The last one carried on nagging me for about 2 months to say, “You are not listening, be quite, listen”. I hated the man I was meant to repeat this to and I sure as hell, did not want to help him or make his life easier. It was his dead mother. I could describe her and had to say this, and cannot tell you how I hate this. I had no clue what this meant, it did to him. I got the feeling that was something she often said to him.
I will probably drop a few swear words because it has been about a month now. I feel insane writing this.
Firstly, the guy/girl that suddenly backed me up from nowhere, is what made me realise it was not over as I had thought. It was just the Sony opportunity that had passed you by.
Somebody is trying to assist you. I am getting all their feelings more than descriptions. Frustration Anxiety Determination Timing Urgent Will do anything to help you. Loves your voice.
Mostly, I do not have the meaning or can tell you what it means. It is meant to mean something to you. I should not be trying to work it out. I do not know what is going on, but you are being stubborn about something. There is somebody in you past that is emphatic that you succeed “your dream”. I do not know what you “dream” is. Only you know that.
The person was either like a mentor/group member that saw your end-dream before you did.
Or / and
A person that has seen your potential, told you the dream they saw for you to gain your trust and piggybacked it off you, or stabbed you in the back.
Whatever it is, he saw potential more than you believe you have, still today. He wants something GREAT for you.
If it the person that stabbed you in the back he is trying to make amends. It must have been nasty and you had a lot of vulnerable trust that hurt you?
If it is the “mentor”, they are just getting plain fucking frustrated with you.
I am just going to refer to that person as “he” now.
He is opening doors all the time (read my messages to your dad, and on “dream team group” it will make more sense). It is a private group so only a couple of people can see it and I took myself off it, thinking this was over. Notice name “dream”.
I get a lot of passion from him.
The whole SA thing has pushed me all over the place, where I did not know which direction to go in. I was happily going down my road when he took over and interrupted my plans.
I have read back on messages to find that I have kept on asking “do you want help”, “are you interested” and “I need information”. Had this happened, it would have been in time for a Sony cut-of talent search since I would have started speaking to Sony the minute I got anything and found that out. That is how anxious I have become; I would have done it immediately. I have not been able to have children so have no interest in marriage apart from the fact it that it would just cost to get a divorce. Therefore, he picked the right person – dis-interest. As one of the first things you read from me, South Africans are generally dis-interested in stars. You will notice I do not do the usual fan stuff of “I love you, heart heart”. I mention “voice”, “talent”, “deserves more” and the person I see.
The talent cut-off finished on 1st September, the day I had been in-boxing you dad frequently. I felt this incredible urgency for time. I just did not know for what. I was just looking for any door at this point.
Now, the South African connection. I kept insisting South Africa, I thought it was because I wanted to see a show or use it as a strategy for my company. Right now, given those frustrating feelings mentioned above from “him”, you are not my favourite person of the day, since I am the one feeling it.
I mention it somewhere that you should not follow the “usual/expected route”, which would have been, oddly, South Africa. Given the support of the other fan that is giving up soda, I am assuming you are getting more opportunities but NOT the way you would expect or what musicians generally do. It would be like this, something completely weird, a surprise. R-factor is not it; there is something bigger if you want it. Yet, these other opportunities are staring you in the face.
Whatever you are doing now, is in some way, not the path that will take you to the “dream”. I am, sorry, if I knew, I would tell you because I am stuck in this.
You were not meant to win x-factor because you are not going to need it and it wasn't a "safe" route? That is your choice as to what life you want to live or career. That would have actually taken that choice away from you. I somehow get the feeling there is hesitation on your side because you are torn between being a present parent to Talon or star on tours.
He is emphatic and I am freaking, because whenever you are about to miss an opportunity, I suspect he will come back to me and I will be anxiously running around not actually knowing what I am looking at, before it is too late. It is only in retrospect that I see the clues. Running around trying to do something within a schedule that I do not even know where to start, is not my idea of fun. More so, when I think it is for my purposes and it turns out not to be. These things never help me. It is a free favour. He may choose someone else and in that case, please help him or her to make it easier for them. We are left very much in the dark.
You are probably saying, shut-up, get away; I do not NEED your help, who is this freak. He is not actually giving you or me that option. We are stuck with each other until you see that opportunity which gets you to that “dream”. I do not even know what your “dream” is, so imagine how frustrated I am, because I do not even have a direction to look in. I get the feeling your dream is very big, considering he is being such a pain in my ass.
Then the topic of smoking This seems to come across so loudly Therefore, I am going to say a couple of things that will probably piss you off, but seriously, too bad.
There is enough evidence that smoking causes lung cancer. You are knowingly taking that risk of Talon losing his dad. Your now and future is your voice and you put it at risk. If you smoke around Talon, the 2nd hand smoke is 3 x your intake. You may as well give him a box of smokes yourself. It occurred to me that a venue like Durban would kill your performance since it is not only hot, but also humid with discomfort factors up to 50degrees Celsius. You will not be able to breathe in a venue like this with unhealthy lungs.
I am catholic and this shit with other unknown people does not go down well with me. I do not know you, you are a public person, I do not want to be held to a person I do not know. I want it gone as fast as possible, as you probably never want to hear from me again.
I would love to say you will not hear from me again, but I do not think I get a bloody choice.
I will enthusiastically help with anything. That I say sincerely because somebody up there thinks you are important enough.
There is a “block” the person under security in FB, please use it freely, as well as your family. It could break this thing I am stuck in.
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I cannot do it on my side because I can just unblock you when I am once again, beckoned to your call from “him”.
Now I have just realized who “him” is. He would know everything about you before anyone else does. He can do all the above better than anyone or thing. He would know everything that I should not know. You, yourself, said to Demi when she said God was rocking with you that, “he is the one that gave it (your voice) to me.”
I even started with this letter saying “oh God.” I am not so vain, stupid or in sane, that I think God would talk to you or me directly. However, he does have many people working for him.
Please use this letter as a gift. I sort of understand this, but you will know exactly what this means. but i know for sure its coming from a good place
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the emotive face you used in the message saying you cant open documents ends with an emotive face, i use that face at the end of all my texts and whatssap to friends. its my signature sign.
God, help me when i put on TV, on a channel i never watch. x-factor SA started its first season - last night. 6.9.13 SA date.
perhaps Jeff wants to send a message? Zonke (judge) is the best one to speak to, i think https://www.facebook.com/messages/ZonkeDikana
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sorry 6.9.14 2013 was when Jeff won. (sorry, can't say 2nd)
STAY would do well here in SA. please make sure there is stock left for us? we don't use i-tunes in SA. Kimberley sent you the mail i sent her. i think i have written more soliloquies than Shakespeare wrote by now. LOL